Seen lots of GSW of all calibers. The Python is a full pound less. He did have a thing about werewolves. I recently purchased the King Cobra Carry and it’s been a great EDC for me, but it was helpful reading a thorough review addressing the good, the bad, and the ugly before making the decision to buy. Now I saw they are under-challenged. Shot placement. You sold me on it, but I was probably already sold anyway. Possibly with improved computer analysis the newer guns is stronger than it looks. No other commercial round scored better than 2-inch groups. In the PX and at the magazine stand. Rugers and Uberti’s. 🙂. Only one of my hand loads, a recreation of the Skeeter Skelton .38 Spl +P+++ load, ever had any trouble ejecting from the cylinder, as long as I gave the ejector rod a solid press. 3. Beyond my reloading experiments, I got to shoot quite a few different rounds from commercial manufacturers. That 50 fps loss in a .357 cylinder seems significant in snubbies where some .38 spec loads are already struggling to open hollowpoints reliably. Mainly … producing frames that need no machining or even buffing to build a gun. Their philosophy is that the U.S. is such a big gun market that they could not care less if they never have any repeat customers. You need to know where the front end is pointed, and with a 3-inch barrel, very small changes at your end make a big difference down range. As I mentioned above, this looks, superficially, from one picture and no disassembly, very similar to the innards of a Colt Trooper Mk III or V – except for the V-spring. It was, of course, a BBQ and shooting event. I’ve had a new shooter try it with a 125 gr starting load in .38 Spl, which is so light you’d think it was a blank round. Lol. Not much difference from one to the other in a given caliber range at the autopsy. I believe 2 inch barrel, and a factory bobbed hammer. You don’t like my posts? Colt did the predecessor to MIM, sintered metal parts, waaaaay back in the 1960s with the Mark IIIs when S&W was still all-forged. Coincidentally, the GP and 686 also have identical MSRPs, so my guess is that heat treated cast steel isn’t that much cheaper than forging. Held one of these at a gun show other the weekend. He agreed , after shooting it , that something was terrible wrong with this gun. God bless Lew Horton and John Jovino. Gents, here is a fantastic guide showing metrics for various 38 spl and .357 defensive loads out of both 2″ and 4″ barrels. Recoil was not bad at all. The 3″ revolver seems like a good IWB gun (similar to G19). I got a legitimate 1100+ fps from the bullet, which is about 75 fps more than the math told me I’d get with a 3-inch barrel, perhaps because it was 100+ degrees outside. The King Cobra, however, does not. Colt’s revolvers are famous for two things: stacking triggers and a “bank vault lock-up.” There isn’t much cylinder movement at all  in the new King Cobra, but it’s there. That would just be so cool. A little metal polish and a minute of careful work with the Dremel tool makes all the difference. They know the gun is flawed ! Also, Century Arms modifies the weapon with upgraded fire control groups (i.e. Saw a guy decapitated by a contract wound with a 7-08. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. It’s also easy to use when held against a body, either mine or my assailant’s, another key advantage of a revolver. Find cool custom and classic cars, muscle cars, SUVs, and trucks and browse all 991,627 vehicle pictures, for sale info, parts and builder's page at CarDomain.com “The average, old time gun owner…” Yep, Vlad, that’s you. I would love to see a destructive test with a 686 and a GP100 to see how proud loads it would take to stretch them or break them. When the hammer is approximately halfway to its cocked position the bolt is released from the trigger and rides on the outside of the cylinder. Made me laugh. Huntolive Feb 18, 2021 at 3:52 PM. I predict this new revolver by Colt will not last long in today’s market. Overall: * * * * When I bought the revolver, there were no other sight options available. (By the way, after shooting 700 rounds, I cleaned the gun and measured the end shake and found no discernible difference than when I pulled it out of the box.). You can now swap out the front sight from Brownells, if they restock. My supreme disappointment with the Colt King Cobra lies just under the top strap. On the ever-popular Smith & Wesson frame scale, the King Cobra sits right in the middle between the J-frame and the K-frame guns. Living in the south, the stainless guns went like hotcakes even though they ran 50% more than carbon steel Pythons. To see machining marks there would be off-putting to many revolver aficionados and collectors who obsess over buying revolvers without flame-cut marks on that area of the top strap. What ammunition were you using? At the time of this writing, all Colt King Cobras come from the factory with a brass bead insert front sight. The Skeeter Load was one many used in 357 Smith’s. But remember, they also promoted the idea that a 22 was just as good as 38, 9mm, etc. Given the 3-inch barrel and relatively short sight radius, this level of precision surprised me. I’m glad you hate to correct me, because you didn’t. It is also not a light cut. The 357 would still have a ballistic advantage with 3inch vs 6 inch 38 special. And I am very secure in my experience and my opinions on firearms. Maybe this one is a little better than the old Colts, but it easy to pull straight on through as I would a Smith & Wesson J-frame. Specialist38, I’m surprised I have never heard that before. This spring design is a change from the traditional plunger-type spring you can see in the diagram below. Grips: Hogue OverMolded Most people dont even know the issue exists. (1) The overall length of a .357 Magnum cartridge is about 1/8th inch longer than a .38 Special cartridge. But you always watched him while he was working. The M.E. Maybe since .38 special is such a low pressure round there’s too much leade and the pressure drops to much. I’m not sure I would be either, especially given some of the knowledge he professes. They and the 140 grain .357 loads give very good performance in a variety of mine and the gangs firearms. Quick and powerful, it every bit lives up to its namesake. Small knives are nice and handy, but dull quickly and just can’t do some of the boning and butchering as easily as a big knife. I don’t know about all of their revolvers, but Colt definitely uses MIM parts in their 1911s. Did I mention I love the trigger? This last season it was dozens of deer (I think 43) and hundreds of pigs and goats. I’m a Colt fan. Skeeter crimped his 158gr bullet to the bottom groove and ran the bullet up to 1,200 feet per second. Lots of odd-duck Smith’s and a few very interesting ones. I carry the 101 daily, great all purpose firearm. It’s unlikely to survive conditions another reputable revolver would not. Booking at 25.5 ounces, the 4-inch Target is a full 12 ounces lighter than the Model 19. Rifles are different. The Barnes 140 gr VOR-TX .357 Magnum cartridge shot legitimate 1-inch groups from the same set up. I like to tell people that in a Colt, you need to THINK about every move you’re going to make when you start trying to do a trigger job, adjust the rebound lever, adjust the tail of the bolt, etc. The one Python I truly wanted (owned and traded a 6 inch blue and a 4 inch nickel) was a 2.5 inch Stainless as a woods gun. My guess is that had to do with how each company bored their cylinders. That polish is even throughout the gun, from the barrel to the frame to the cylinders. Customization: * * Beyond a little more end shake than I was expecting, my Colt King Cobra also has some play in the rotation of the cylinder during lock-up. His favorite knife to skin elk is a #10 5″ micarta that Mark gave him. Not that I’m trying to elevate myself to their level. These loads will never be fired. Most bent the mainspring by cocking the gun with a drill bit inserted in the spring. Carry guns are certainly the most popular market segment these days. Those are limited as well. Things like pistol-whipping someone with the butt of a Colt DA revolver can cause it to go out of time. So folks who buy a 357 and load 38s would be better served ( ballistically) with 38 special. Lastly the outrageous price is a complete joke compared to the crude piece of machinery you are getting stuck with. Now they all use MIM parts because that’s how you make an affordable American-made revolver in the 21st century. I’ve spent the last six months putting it through its paces. For just one ounce, you get another round in the cylinder with the King Cobra. This should be five stars. Probably the same impact as (and I don’t have ballistics in front of me, so just take this for the general point I’m trying to make) as a .38 SPL with a 6″ barrel. A number of years ago Massed Ayoob commented on mine and the ivory grips I had on my 1911. If the KC is between a J and K frame, how well will it handle constant 357 loads? I also own a few S&W revolvers, a ruger, and a couple of NAA revolvers. But I think people equated thicker with stronger… and that ain’t the case….as strong? They were returned to Colt and one showed up at an auction a few years back. I do love me a wheel gun. Unless you’ve lived under a rock the past couple of years, it’s impossible to miss Colt is back in the double-action revolver game. If you just saw photos of the revolver, with its shrouded ejector rod and full under lug, you might think this is the first step toward a new Python. Troopers who were issued 4″ nickel Colt Pythons. This pull is made possible through the custom tuning done at the Performance Center. Yup. Post Civil War handgun ammunition.... BobWright, Feb 15, 2021. The fate of the other five remains unknown. You have entered an incorrect email address! That makes sense, the melting point is much higher. Odds apparently show that getting a good Colt are relatively good. My buddy was a shade tree mechanic with his own workshop. Shot placement. I like a drop point, but I definitely prefer a large blade with an upswept point more. You need to think “OK, I want X to change in timing early/late, but doing that will cause this other thing to change, and I need to change this other feature over here to compensate….” and down the rabbit hole you can go. Question. I’ll keep checking back. I don’t prefer these grips at all, and will replace them with wood or laminate stocks as soon as I can. Even up in the trees. Their factory loads have done well for me in a variety of firearms and calibers. I’ve shot it two-handed and one-handed, right and left. Ruger revolvers are stronger than Smith’s, not because they use more metal, but because the metal is more strategically placed. I’ll just buy one for each hand. Colt does indeed use MIM. It’s usually just the 642 or LCP in a pocket holster. My .243 really likes them. This gun in the article is exactly what I would want in a revolver. Might as well make it 8 of us. In those days if you wanted a 1911 it was a Series 70 Colt Government Model. Mythbusters did silver bullets a couple times. At 25 yards, shooting seated off a bag in single action, most commercial .357 Magnum ammo shot right around the 2-inch mark as an average of 5 rounds over 4-shot strings. Those guys were a hoot… lost all my issues in a flood in the early 90s. I’d be happy with a 2.5 inch model as long as them ejection stroke was long enough. As someone who posts very little but does read the comments, it comes across as excessive; it’s as if he’s not really secure. Some are more than other. If you want all those pieces to be forged and hand finished to fit, or CNC machined, or something along those lines, then I hope you’re willing to pay twice as much for a gun with the exact same performance, reliability, feel, etc etc etc. If you bought a post war Smith for 250 ….it was probably stolen. It’s the “when I see them” part that’s the hardest. 2. Reliability: * * * * * Since I got the King Cobra early this year, I have at least 500 full pressure .38 Special rounds through it, and another couple hundred .357 Magnums. And I’m pretty sure my BB, I’m too lazy to get in the safe right now and double check, .38 special 110 grain copper hollowpoints are loaded with Barnes bullets as well. During my early 20s stainless handguns began to really take hold. Colt specs for the barrel/cylinder gap used to be 0.002″, and and endshake of 0.003, *max* from the factory. I ended up purchasing the K6, but intend to pick up a King Cobra as well. I too, have skinned hundreds, thousands. Capacity: 6 rounds I can only image how good it would look blued. I think you meant “I’m PAYING for one in Royal Blue.”. Then, they built to something larger in the Colt King Cobra Target which we reviewed HERE. Colt currently lists these guns as “Out of Stock”. Prices are coming down to under $800, and it screams quality. There were six 3 in barrel versions made for a Canadian police dept. Trigger pulls. All of which help when transitioning between targets. I own a 1976 Python, and it is just too beautiful to carry- that deep Royal Blue just cries out “Pamper Me, I’m a Safe Queen!” I’m sort of looking forward to purchasing one of these altho the 3″ barrel does give me audio-visions of ear-splitting report and wicked recoil with full .357 loads. I also have a Kramer Leather 1911 holster and I would heartily recommend either to make you a custom holster for your 3” King Cobra. Otherwise, you can go choose an old model leather holster that’s either too big or too small. With one exception. Spent cases are reliably ejected and reloading is relatively fumble free. I use my Ruger SP101 in .357 and have written off the worthless Colt King Cobra. They are thick, deep gouges in the steel. Let’s see you compare it with the Kimber K6S 3″ and maybe a Wiley Clapp GP100 3″ and/or the Combat Magnum. It’s called extracting value from the market. Still more than I’m willing to pay. I highly recommend it. WASR 10 for sale series rifles manufactured with stamped sheet metal receivers originally intended for single-stack magazines. A front sight you can actually see, and see quickly, is a must have for a defensive-minded handgun. However, if it were like most of the original double action Colt revolvers, we’d like to see no more than .003″ of movement. Those of you who know your loads will recognize this as a legitimate .357 Magnum load, actually producing higher pressures than many commercial .357 Magnum cartridges. See if you think the reward is worth the return. Anyway, the 586 and 686 were developed in response to the Security Six which would take as many of those hot (but not +p) loads as you could stand to put through them. Not for sentimental reasons. You will lose around 50 fps shooting Most 38 special loads in a 357 cylinder. Weight: 28 oz. I am 67 and just bought my first Colt… Python…Feels great…going to shoot it this week. Unless you using “the Load” for 38 special…….and most people wont . Also as well as a rubber wrapped grip that’s been moved rearward to help manage recoil. According to the manufacturer, it's “engineered for accurate and enjoyable shooting”. The Company’s Designated Agent to receive notification of alleged infringement under the DMCA is: Greg Sica 2255 Glades Road, Suite 221A Boca Raton, FL 33431. Any idea why the change? None of them, however, were 3 inches.”. I like the gun, a lot. Impressive review and writing in general. Beyond all that, its light weight and design makes it easy to carry close to the body and still draw quickly. We hope that as you go through our website, you may find what you need with ease and be rest assured that you will have the best shopping experience right here. While I own an SP101 and carry it at times I don’t love it the way some people do as the perfect trail gun. Lots of rain and water in Florida. My first. I think I’ve read everything he ever published in Shooting Times and I have a couple of his collected works. So I never bought one and made do with a 624 Smith. If you are patient about it you’re doing better than me! Wouldn’t the king of the snake guns be the Anaconda? I can find them for about $830 online for the few places that say they are in stock. Thanks for writing it. However, with a gun like the LCR, the 38 is around 3.5 ounces lighter to boot. Endshake in a revolver cannot be reduced to absolutely zero unless the face of the cylinder has been turned to be absolutely normal to the rotational axis – otherwise, the cylinder is apt to drag across some part of the cylinder rotation. You can see the injection point on the side. I may yet still. ... we were easily able to keep our shots in the inner circle of a silhouette target—thanks to the excellent trigger pull. It would take only one mistake to turn some other revolvers (especially those lighter carry revolvers) into hand grenades. If any blued model comes out, I’ll buy several. A real one ….. not one chambered in 357. I’m a little wary of that on a defensive gun of this size, but still, it should be minimal. And the classic Colt’s are too cool. JWT, funny how worlds overlap. you might learn something. rigs for this gun. Considering its relatively light weight, recoil in .357 Magnum is very manageable. I sent it back to Colt. Many folks consider the ideal end shake to be zero. Averaged over the entire 20-round box, it scored at 1 1/4″. Just make sure to leave California in California, and don’t Californicate your new state. When I heard that Colt was re-introducing the King Cobra earlier this year, I ordered one as fast as I could. Pretty much rationalizing out loud for my own sake. I have no issue with MIM parts, when they are done right. With a .357 Magnum, I would have much preferred a 4-inch gun. Even though Colt should be out of business. My G19 and Security 9 compact are the IWB carry guns (but that is rare for me). I too know I have a lot to learn, or I wouldn’t be spending time reading about it here. The v spring (maybe u spring now) harkens back to old Colts. The lead also penetrated ballistic gel better than silver, something the MB crew attributed to the lead’s greater weight. Even then I liked the idea for carrying in the woods. You’re not going to blow either one of them up unless you go completely crazy with handloads. They collect powder residue and are difficult to clean, but likely provide no significant structural weakening of the firearm. Not doggin anyone here. He had every tool known to man and a few he made himself. The advantages for the Rugers right now is the diversity of the line, and how easy they are to work on. As a carry magnum revolver, the King Cobra is about perfect in size. Thank you for the solid review. Specialist38, you had to make do with a 624? The King Cobra has a transfer safety bar, making it completely safe to carry with the hammer down on a live round. This, from a bone stock 5 1/2″ gun. S&W, Rugers, etc solve this problem by “cleaving” the revolver function – the mainspring drives the hammer fall, and there is a separate spring for the trigger reset. But—-if you do not get a good one—-Colt service is about as slow as it gets ! I don’t know what their spec is on this gun. Kinda my point. It is louder and definitely has more flash. The gun is really good looking, with great style and a brushed stainless polish done better than anyone in the business. Reset isn’t an issue. Only four things matter: 1. Meant to mention, one of my best friend’s son-in-law is a guide on Ted Turner’s ranch in New Mexico. It was noted well before the internet became sentient. The load was a gas checked, well lubed 300gr LSWC moving just OVER 1,200fps! Many revolvers ( even Smith’s) have a light cut in the top strap from the factory. I believe it’s called the silver dollar? Having said that, this gun is on my list of wants. Since this wasn’t a T&E gun and I was a little less worried about destroying it, I played around with quite a few different recipes for hand loads. Great product. The heart of any double action revolver is its trigger and the King Cobra ships straight from Hartford, Connecticut with a great trigger. Caliber: .357 Magnum, .38 Spl, .38 Spl +P Perhaps some of the gunsmiths out there can let me know why they think this change was made in the comments. 3″ makes an outstanding EDC as well as an outstanding paring knife for the kitchen. Looks pretty close to perfect to me. Another reason could be that the barrel is not true to the flash hole (or whatever that’s called on a modern revolver.) In addition Colt pulled the trigger 40,000 times with no timing issues. Nice… but, patiently waiting for the next step…. Colt’s SA triggers were about 3 lbs or so, and their DA’s tended to be 10 lbs. I think, and this I’m really not sure on, That I’ve used them in .45 Colt also. I remember the G&A cover on the 629. Save those semi-hand-made Pythons, the new King Cobra is as good as any of the standard production double action revolvers Colt has made. *Shakes fist angrily*. Well , I got the gun back from COLT with a note stating that all was within specs ! (That’s just me). The Ruger shoots better than I could ever hope the COLT would. This is a fine, functional grip and many folks replace their factory revolver grips with the Hogue grips. Of course, since they are immediately all sold out the second Colt offers them, they actually go online for $2.500. I’ll loose, uh, that’s right, no sleep. Not sure if cast can be made to be as strong as forged but with proper heat treatment it’s closer than you think. Both self inflicted. Back in the day some of the pros I read/talked to called a 4″ .357 mag a loud .38. If there’s an upside to Hurricane Michael, the hogs have moved off the farm. I thought David Soul’s 6″ Python was the coolest revolver I had ever seen. Although I like a shiny brass bead, I like a tritium front sight a whole lot more, and would very much like to replace my brass bead with a Tritium or fiber optic insert. From Colt, nothing. None of them, however, were 3 inches. I’ll tell you this, that single action pull feels a heck of a lot lighter than that.  I’m not sure what it is, but I find a 6 lb trigger on a GLOCK unacceptable while the greater part of 9 lbs on a revolver like this one feels light and easy. In closing, both of us found the Colt Cobra for sale to be an admirable snubbie revolver. The Lucky Gunner lab is a great, exhaustive work evaluating load penetration. Never mentioned what my career was. I own the new KC. Then again I just use them for fun. If we can’t see a Python now, a Python-like finish would be almost as good. Endshake would cause the hand to slip on the ratchet as it was pushed into full lockup, and the cylinder might move back-to-front as it locked up, causing more wear on the sides of the bolt. I suspect (but this is only suspicion, and not a fact) I would guess this particular Colt mechanism isn’t anywhere near as difficult to work on as the classic DA revolver mechanisms are. I’ll let you know if it finally comes back in the condition I expected when I layed out the $900.00 for this POS. You’ll see them slapping the inside front of the trigger guard with their trigger finger when they’re shooting fast. Made the old Redhawks look lithe and smooth. 3. My guess on the frame cuts by the forcing cone is Colt did that to give the gas somewhere to go without cutting it’s own channel. So, what kind of benefit package does kapo bloomberg give you? Took some artwork to gets the pull smoother without stacking. I really enjoy butchery and charquterie. It was not a production model though. One note….if comparing 38 special (especially +P) to 357, use a 38 special revolver. And yet, this is smaller than a K frame. Huntolive, Feb 15, 2021. Ol’ Skeeter’s load scored groups triple the size of other loads. Rugers are certainly easy to work on, as are S&W’s. There’s a significant difference in energy levels, 10-15% between 3″-4″. I might wait a bit to see if different barrel lengths come out. I’ve found my black bear/mule deer load for this year. Personally, I don’t prefer gutter sights. Lets face facts if you want a more affordable revolver then why not just get the crudely made cast iron Ruger, yes they are crude but you expect that at the lower price and they were engineered to be very durable. Not the Colt, that beast was a turd. Anyway, back to handgun calibers. cgray, I bought my first 1911 circa 1982. The MIM cast part used in this crudely made revolver are not even made by Colt. Your follow up on peoples questions and comments is also admirable. These could be reduced, with skill. I’ve read that’s why pistol cartridges like 9mm do better in snubbies than you’d expect, because of the extra free-bore. Those machining marks look like the tap went too deep while threading for the barrel. Some grips from some manufacturers for the Cobra may work on this gun. Colt Cobra for sale. I am aware of Kimbers offering but have not liked what i held. That is indeed the area where really hot loads, coupled with a B/C gap of more than 0.004″, would start to flame-cut the underside of the top strap. As an aside, read your reply to my comment on RMK. City once owned a S&W 24 (stolen), 624 and a Lou Horton 3″ round butt special run. Your affinity for constantly reminding everyone of your law “enforcement” career is truly something to behold. That one was stout. If it had been found in a wall locker inspection, or on my person before Florida had a CCW it would have been my ass.
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